those are things like growing debt, globalization, technology and our ageing population. now, that speaks to something, ken, that i've warned about repeatly on this show. the challenges are significant. they come from europe and asia and old and failing instruction here in the united states. massive debt. americans have the right to expect their leaders to tackle large problems. what do we do? >> well, i think this point that it's not just what happens this month, this year, how with regoing to move forward? grow this economy? because this problem of debt comes from really from our ageing population. from our having to compete with the rest of the world and you know, you talk about this tax hike that we have, it's not enough to close the gap. i mean, the idea that the middle class is going to get away from this without paying most of it without entitlements being cut, that is nuts. i mean, eventually, that's going to happen. they're not going to admit it now. you don't want to do that in the middle of the recession. >> diane, one of the argument that is say the fiscal cli